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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:36 am | |
| Welcome DramaLlama to the halls of the dead. Roles & Deadlynches so far: Luna - ExecutionerRocshi - ThiefSumikoko - DivinerDramaLlama - ValetKromos - Acolyte (deadlynched day 2) Escaho - Death Knight (deadlynched day 3) You may deadlynch another player tonight. You may also post ONE "ghostly whisper" here, which will be sent to a player in their night results (don't send anything yourself). The whisper may not contain any relevant information. - Sumikoko wrote:
- Hey Borkbot, can I do something to freak him out? Like include something listed as a part of what happened to him last night. And put something like, "You start noticing a rash in the shape of an X forming around your throat. When you are alone, you suddenly hear a ghostly voice say 'You have only 3 day/night cycles until you are violently impaled to death.' You are terrified, unsure of what to do next."
Yes, you can do that Just notify me when your message is final | |
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DramaLlama
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-03-05
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:43 pm | |
| ALL HAIL DRAMALLAMA! Questions for Bork: Can I give away who the Banshee is? He is really retarded and I blame him for hauntings loss. It's inevitable. Can I give any info I came across to dead chat? Can I say anything from haunting chat here? I copied it before day ended I don't know how dead chat works. Anyways the game: Yes it was hard for me to act town whilst being mafia the first time. I'm so used to 1 minute long days and only having to say a couple things (sc2) when mafia. I probably stuck out like a sore thumb. I tried mimicking what I did in FMx but I had WAY too much fun trolling socretin. Stupid mistakes I made but I still think the banshee is main reason why haunting is losing. He ignored every suggestion I gave and I don't even think they used my code to discover what Waaagh is. As for my claim. Well I had been backed into a corner by goremancer. I caught up and everything had gone to shit. Why did he out me? Why did he out himself? Stupid shit! So I took a look at all the roles. I could claim lookout/shadow effectively without having to guess what happened to someone. It didn't occur to me that I should call gore a liar and claim acolyte maybe I should have in hindsight. So I claimed shadowhunter because lookout might not work (waaagh would have immediately called me out on that since herald visited him). I tried to set it up so that I would gain some favor with my accusers (mainly waaagh since socretin is a sheep) and that would be that. But then I had to open my mouth and keep going on and on. I guess I got nervous and also a little cocky. I knew what Waaagh was and I couldn't direct attention onto him because he could role claim and people would be like "oh shit". Besides I had cleared him. Idk why I kept suggesting he was banshee. So Basically I fucked up and the only way out that I could see was going with the stupid chain idea. I thought it would work and they wouldn't see my one escape route but they have all the time in the world. Stupid me! This isn't sc2! So then eventually I gave up and faked being afk for some stupid LoL tourny (haha). Thought a bit on the matter and decided my only hope of living another day was claiming acolyte and it was all a gambit. Too late for that. So I fucked myself over and at this point I don't care because of goremancer gamethrowing (imo it was gamethrowing, idc if he was drunk or he doesn't know for sure) and banshee being a selfish ass of a leader. Also the 3rd haunting member isn't doing anything for the team, I could replace him with a rabbit and it would be better. @Luna I specificially asked the Banshee not to recruit you. Too obvious of a target for n1 actions. he refused. Blame him! I also told him not to recruit goremancer. I didn't say because he was a troll (which I should have) but it was a waste in my opinion. If he had kept his mouth shut maybe I would still be alive but hey. shit happens! Also I am a torontonian (well technically I live in Vaughan.. but let's just say I live in toronto ok? I have no strong feelings one way or the other towards the blue jays. Sometimes I go to a game (because they are dirt cheap) but mostly I don't pay attention. I have never really liked the leafs. I have always been a huge fan of marty brodeur. I follow the players more than the team name.. so right now I want Vancouver/NewJersey in the finals! :p @Sumi My last will was written when you were still alive. I wanted to implement you incase DK axed me. I then copy pasted it into day chat because I didn't know if bork would put it down. So sorry if that's weird @rocshi yeah I wouldn't have claimed thief, maybe survivor? @Bork Can my pm whisper thing be to TheWaaagh? "You hear a ghostly whisper that says 'Better watch your behind, lest you be confined. For do I need remind, your words unkind, your mind is blind?' | |
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Sumikoko
Posts : 18 Join date : 2012-03-03
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:59 pm | |
| - DramaLlama wrote:
@Sumi My last will was written when you were still alive. I wanted to implement you incase DK axed me. I then copy pasted it into day chat because I didn't know if bork would put it down. So sorry if that's weird Don't sweat it. :p What I'm more curious about is, if I were alive, what did you hope to accomplish by implicating me in your last will? Heh. You would flip Valet, and anyone you put into your last will would pretty much be confirmed town. xD (Or maybe the Death Knight). What were you trying to frame me for? Oh and Borkbot, here's the final version of my awesome PM to Escaho. Include it as part of his night actions, okay? :3 "You began to notice a rash in the shape of an X forming around your throat. When you are alone, you suddenly hear an ethereal voice whisper 'You have only 2 day/night cycles until you are violently impaled to death.' You are terrified, unsure of what to do next." | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:20 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Can I give away who the Banshee is? He is really retarded and I blame him for hauntings loss. It's inevitable.
Can I give any info I came across to dead chat? Can I say anything from haunting chat here? I copied it before day ended I don't know how dead chat works.
There are no rules against any of those things, but maybe you should ask your fellow dead people if they want to hear about it first. They might rather be following the remainder of the game without knowledge of the Haunting chat and whatnot. However, you can't share any of that information (or any of the information posted here for that matter) with people who aren't in dead chat. Even if they aren't playing. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:23 pm | |
| Sure guys, both of those ghostly whispers are just fine. | |
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DramaLlama
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-03-05
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:20 pm | |
| Haha ok
@sumi well I was hoping for the wifom to kick in that everyone accuses everyone with. Sorta like luna's last will. No one really knows :p
I'm guessing you guys don't want any of my info so I'll dead lynch whomever you want. Without giving too much away, I would want to deadlynch CmG. I innitially thought CmG was the death knight based on his play but he also suits a PR hiding.
At this point I would be amazed if haunting pulls this off. I suspect they will do a stupid recruitment again tonight, goremancer will die to dk and then were back to square one.
I also suspect that they won't know wtf to do. I was the most vocal (by far) out of the haunting members. I don't see how they can manipulate the town.
Best case scenario for tomorrow: DK doesn't kill goremancer, haunting recruit someone who doesn't out himself and accepts they are haunting. The town mislynches, DK gets outed, crypt opened. DK now gets manipulated to kill with haunting for 2 KPN and they remove the paladin from the equation.
Worst case scenario: Gore dies to DK, new recruit outs himself. Town gets heal chains set up and most town roles confirmed. Town lynches assassin. Banshee all alone with 1 recruit that will die. Process repeats itself until crypt opened and banshee smitten/dk kills. GG. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:38 pm | |
| To be honest, I think the Haunting should kill a conversion immune target tonight and bewitch Socretin to visit one of their members who comes up as a member of the Haunting or a potential DK suspect. | |
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Sumikoko
Posts : 18 Join date : 2012-03-03
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:59 pm | |
| Okay, I'm derping hard in dead chat lol. Someone explain to me how Goremancer practically admitted he was converted. I skimmed through the Day, and was confused. I did it again, and misread the rules right after and thought that the Banshee could only witch people she had converted. Okay, and then I thought he totally gave himself away. And then I just reread the rules again and found I had misread the rules, and now I am officially confused and I have no idea what's going on lol. DEY STOLE MAI BRAINS. I'm curious to see who the Banshee is lol. Sounds like his decisions this game were below par. Zack once told me that when you become Godfather, your mafia instincts usually kick in a notch higher as you try to "become" the role. I guess some people slightly freak out from the responsibilities and perform not as well? Dunno. I know I freaked last MFM as Godfather, lol. But Borkbot had a niiiice rope burn around his neck by the time I was done with him. Kufufufu. | |
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Luna
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:36 pm | |
| Hehe welcome Drama. First mafia role in forum mafia always sucks a bit. I can't believe you stalled the lynch as long as you did, there's some real idiots misinterpreting the rules. A lot of people are using the same strategies they're comfortable with, they haven't changed their mindset to deal with a cult game. Honestly aside from Goremancer's epic decline, your main problem was your vocal attack on Socretin. For starters, on day 1 before anyone had figured out exactly what happened he was the one defending Azeryuu claiming a PR, then once Azeryuu claimed Paladin he claimed Shadow Hunter. Completely viable strategy in this setup, and no Haunting would fake a paladin claim because the real paladin would just smite them. Sometimes in mafia games, even though you can never trust someone 100%, you need to show some faith in a believable claim. It is typical mafia strategy to besmirch someone under the guise of 'well you can never trust someone fully and he claims he is confirmed!' because it makes you look like you're pro-actively scum-hunting. If you'd taken the time from the very beginning to work with Socretin, he would be less likely to target you and would be a good candidate for conversion when other PRs reveal themselves - after all, the Shadow Hunter is the guy in the best position to re-check people to see if they've been culted. Whilst I don't doubt the existence of two Shadow Hunters, I wouldn't mind hearing who the Mafia are, maybe in a - Spoiler:
spoiler tag?
Because McPwnage's Shadow Hunter claim was unbelievably weak. It was off-hand (I don't like the grandiose 'role-claim incoming, everyone pay attention to me because I'm important!' claims, but he was trying to keep his inconspicuous). His targets were weak, in fact I expect he said he investigated me because he is the Banshee and he converted me night 1 (in case someone checks my body). That would also explain the circle check, as I said, if two members of it are haunting then you can either cult Socretin or, if McPwnage is indeed the Banshee, Socretin comes up with NS and McPwnage fakes your result. Also your attack on TheWaaagh was a bit desperate, you can't ignore all the pro-Town things he has done (like bait Goremancer into revealing his results before he realised he was culted) and have the two people who claim they checked him with a NS result to suddenly say 'Well our hard evidence revealed that he isn't the DK, Valet or Assassin, so he MUST be the Banshee instead of the other dozen town roles left unclaimed'). You were much more aggressive in this game than you were in FMX, probably because you feel the need to plot and scheme as mafia to disrupt the Town. Of course, while you were highly suspicious anyway, I was impressed that you were caught red-handed by Goremancer and outed yet still managed to waste the Town's time. What role is TheWaaagh? I'm the only one in this chat who doesn't know | |
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DramaLlama
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-03-05
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:50 am | |
| Big spoiler here: Giving away 3 unknown roles to deadchat. You've been warned :p - Spoiler:
Fragos: Banshee Jimbobicus: Assassin TheWaaagh: Cleric
Another spoiler: Night chat with banshee: - Spoiler:
Night One
Dramallama wrote: I would say recruit Luna (ideally) but that's fairly obvious. Maybe somone like Rocshi (known lurker) who won't be so obvious or Ubernox?
Fragos wrote: I nominate Luna for our first convert. She is a smart player, and regardless of her role she can be useful to us. Another notable player, Kromos, should be investigated this night.
Dramallama wrote: I disagree with luna n1, (n2 or 3 would be better) but its up to you. I agree kromos is a notable one.
Night Two Fragos Wrote: But here my my interesting suggestion.
We convert Goremancer, the stalker. Why? Because Paladin will choose to ward Socretin (the Shadow Hunter) over stalker. By converting him we will be able to get more information about players that are alive. More importantly, he can tell if his target has a key or not. Our action should be surprise action. They will keep accusing each other, and ignore Goremancer for a while since he is one of the supposed candidates for warding. They will NOT expect that he is converted. Yes, this is a good risk, but payoff is great.
Dramallama wrote: I would suggest recruiting cmg. We aren't really at the point where we can take risks recruiting. we need to get guaranteed recruits in or the town will start finding us.
Fragos wrote: Like Hell I will listen to you! We need more information to win! I am the Banshee! My decision is final. I will convert Goremancer. I won't have any regrets about this. I'm sure that Paladin will ward Socretin because he is more important. Don't try to stop me, I'm sure that we will get our advantage soon.
Yeah... didn't take any suggestion of mine seriously. :p | |
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Luna
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:37 am | |
| The name of the Assassin surprised me, but not so much the name of the Banshee. | |
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Luna
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:42 am | |
| Hmm who would you like to deadlynch Drama?
Tempted to vote up CmG or Mopin myself. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:28 am | |
| Converting Goremancer was technically a very sound choice. If he hadn't derped so hard, neither you nor him would've been lynched. And while the diviner got killed by the death knight, you had taken over the only other role that can detect keys. Recruit keyholders after that and you can stall the opening of the crypt and keep on recruiting.
3 of the 4 options you mentioned before Fragos made his choice were Escaho, Sumikoko and TheWaaagh, all of which were immune. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:30 am | |
| The Banshee is rulederping on a subject that's very similar to the goremancer derp. And there is no one in their night chat to save him. I feel sorry. | |
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Luna
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:34 am | |
| Is Goremancer not in the Haunting night chat? | |
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Luna
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:35 am | |
| - Quote :
- I will convert Goremancer. I won't have any regrets about this.
That's going in my signature as soon as this game ends. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:54 am | |
| - Luna wrote:
- Is Goremancer not in the Haunting night chat?
Even if he was, do you think that he'd bother to read the rules now that his death is imminent? | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:13 am | |
| What do you folks think is the answer to the riddle? There have been more correct submissions than for the silver one. | |
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DramaLlama
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-03-05
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:09 am | |
| I didn't even check the riddle, lemme take a moment. - Admin wrote:
- 3 of the 4 options you mentioned before Fragos made his choice were Escaho, Sumikoko and TheWaaagh, all of which were immune.
Well I also mentioned CmG. Is he also immune? or did you miss that Anyways here's what I think everyone is: - Spoiler:
Azeryuu: Paladin CmG: Hidden town PR (guessing knight) Deathfire123: Herald Escaho: Death Knight Fragos: Banshee Goremancer: Stalker Guardian: Armour Smith jimbobicus: Assassin Kromos: Acolyte Luna: Executioner McPwnage: Shadow Hunter Mopin: Acolyte Nick: Acolyte Rocshi: Thief Socretin: Shadow Hunter Sumikoko: Diviner TheWaaagh: Cleric Ubernox: Neutral (guess survivor. amnese would take diviner tonight) WolfCheese: Bard
amiright bork? Dead lynch CmG would be my choice. I know he is PR but can't place him. | |
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DramaLlama
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-03-05
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:41 am | |
| - Quote :
- Still collected when we aren't sought, but you will never have us all
Haha I couldn't think of anything that fit perfectly. All I thought of were Words Thoughts Feelings Ideas And all of those get canceled out by a different line somewhere. I had the most trouble with the "we can be owned but can't be bought" line because technically you can buy pretty much anything these days. You can even buy love, friends, happiness etc. You can buy any living being on this planet (even humans still) so I thought about things in the universe but nothing fit. So I give up. I am too literal to be good at riddles | |
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Luna
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:59 am | |
| I haven't read the riddle yet, hadn't noticed it was up, will check it out later.
I'm okay with deadlynching CmG
-deadlynch CmG | |
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DramaLlama
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-03-05
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:02 am | |
| Yarr we be -deadlynch cmg
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Admin Admin
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-03-02
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:10 am | |
| For what you know for certain, your list of roles is pretty far off, DramaLlama :p
One more vote needed to deadlynch. I'll let your choice count if Rocshi and Sumikoko don't show up. | |
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DramaLlama
Posts : 21 Join date : 2012-03-05
| Subject: Re: Night 3 / Day 4 Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:11 am | |
| I guess I am not destined to play fm. | |
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